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Interesting pronunciation of "woofer", too! Not one that I've heard before 😂

Interesting video. I'm extremely disappointed in the direction that Falcon appear to be heading in, though. Until just recently, MoFi were selling/distributing a "standard" LS3/5a, in a "standard" black finish, produced by Falcon, for a fairly reasonable price ($2k). That distribution deal, for whatever reason, has apparently fallen through though. Very disappointing. What's more disappointing is that Falcon now seem to only be interested in selling "luxury" versions of the LS3/5a, in "luxury" veneers, for an equally luxurious price of almost DOUBLE what the standard MoFi version was selling for. While there are undoubtedly plenty of rich old men (seems to be the target demographic!) who are happy to spend almost $4k on a small pair of speakers, Falcon seem to have completely forgotten about the more "pedestrian" consumer, who just wants a "normal" pair of LS3/5a's in a normal (black!) finish, at a relatively normal price. I wanted a pair for my studio, and black is the only finish that wouldn't look "odd". I also seriously resent being charged double the price for a few tweaks! Aside from anything else, surely a "tweaked" LS3/5a is no longer an LS3/5a!! The entire premise of interchangeabilty has been trampled on! LS3/5a's are supposed to sound the same as each other! Now, maybe I've got (some) of my facts wrong, and I'm certainly not looking to pick a fight with anyone, but I'd be interested to hear what anyone else has to say on this matter. Especially someone from Falcon! I've been using (and repairing!) LS3/5a's since the 80s. Repairing because in the "old days" of 1" VTRs, tape ops would rewind a video tape at full volume and the Sony VTRs didn't mute (or even lower) the audio while the tape was in FF/Rew, so the speakers would be absolutely blasted with a ton of high frequency energy, blowing the tweeters. Many times I would ship off a bunch of blown T27's to KEF in exchange for some new ones! The price was lower if you sent the busted ones back to them 😊 Anyway, point being, I'm very familiar with the "standard" LS3/5a, both Rogers & Spendor, and I really don't need/want an "improved" version (certainly not at twice the price, anyway). So, Falcon, what gives?! Why no "plain black" finish, and why no more "sensibly priced" version? Are you just going for a cash-grab from wealthy foreigners? I imagine this "improved" luxury version no longer meets BBC specs and probably can't even be sold in the UK. That's just a guess, but I think I'm probably right! Happy to be proved wrong, though, and I'd be even happier to hear that the $2k MoFi version was being produced still/again, albeit from a different distributor. In the meantime I've bought a fairly late-production pair of Rogers LS3/5a's, in a pretty horrible teak finish (I guess I could do a vinyl wrap on them?!) but they do appear to be "like new". Having them shipped from England to NYC, and they're not here yet, but I would far rather have bought a new pair in black. Whatever happened to the MoFi deal, I wonder 🤔 Anyway, it's cool that Falcon are still passionate about these speakers, but focussing on rich old men and fancy, exotic veneers is not what this speaker was supposed to be about. It was meant to be a "utilitarian" near-field monitor, for professionals, and most studios want black! At a sensible price. Anyone care to share their thoughts or correct me on any points? If I'm wrong on anything, I'm happy to be educated!

Did the process to Simple setup with lintons in a difficult room. It was night and day difference. This is a must. Now going to do again as all the hardware is new and brokenin. Thank you sir. If not for the distance you would be already sitting here helping with the setup. I will check Dirac after the setup and share my feels.

honestly seems like these guys are speaking from the perspective of the typical audiophile which I appreciate!

Thanks bob for yours explanation and sharing, I followed your step and get a magnificent sound 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

They are just trying to sell something to the people that will buy it. Consumerism.

13:55 The guy sleeping during a tense exchange is hilarious.

John I super enjoyed this presentation. Met you during your Hi Fi News days in England. Didn't realize all of this - thanks! Gary Eickmeier

Anyone interested in a bottle of snake oil?

This is what happens when you create a standard with the industry in mind not the consumer. It seems to have been designed so that streaming providers could claim "hi res lossless" on a lossy product that would save them a ton of bandwidth costs (bear in mind, that while a giant like Netflix can stream 4K HD etc they've achieved this by providing thousands of media servers to ISPs around the world so they can get the content as close as possible to the edge to keep bandwidth costs down). Now that Tidal dropped it and went back to FLAC I guess we've moved on and bandwidth is cheaper than it was 5 years ago. Good riddance MQA.

I smell BS regarding stereo image moving around the room. If speaker positioning is that critical then so is listening position.

I think Bob is perfectly right with his story, but it’s also about how important the setup is for a certain listener. I’ve got a nice €20.000 hifi setup and a weird room with different listening positions. The sound is ok, no sweet spots or something, but when I go to a live band the music comes from a PA system that isn’t properly setup, most speakers are at the sides of the podium, sometimes hanging at the ceiling etc. Same thing at a theater, concert hall, it isn’t perfect most of the time. But I guess when you have a special listening room with a listening position you can get it perfect like head phones for example, if you take the time to get the right angles of your speakers.

When he was talking about Vanguard and said how they were originally done by RCA, and I knew he going to say how Columbia took over, I realized how much of a dork I am.

My dealership called me at the end of the video to say my delivery for the Falcon Acoustics LS3/5a BBC 15Ω Gold Badge is today!😄

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Respect to Bob. He's still replying to comments on this 9 years after the fact. Im going to try this in a few different rooms, with varying equipment. If the results are there, I'll refer clients and installers to the website to make that $50 purchase. Should be an interesting few weeks...

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Elmer Fud is quite the audiophile

Thank you for recording this!

Great seminar! I think listen with your ears and let them determine is the way in the end. But the measuring and all that is really hard to just let go and disregard. I mean the technical aspect is in part some of the fun too. So I think mixing the ears with technical OCD stuff is the middle ground. Tbh I probably couldn't live with having the speakers standing asymmetrical even if I thought and knew it sounded the absolute best. But I could live with the speakers standing symmetrical and still have 95% of the asymmetrical sound quality.

Thanks to everyone there! DSD is awesome!

This video is a treasure!

I've just bought your guide. Usefull information. I have an openbaffle with full range driver on each and for the moment. Lii audio F-12. Sound excellent. But my bass need boost. Before the configuration do I need to equalize with dsp for best result, or just keep the speaker as it, no equalize . For my right speaker. I have a door behind. Does I need to keep it close or open for the setup ?. My room is almost 13 feet by 10 feet. I use the long side for wide possibility and less side wall reflection. Does it will be a better option to go with the short wall ? This is a small room used for my music, TV and PC and I think if my speaker is too close from listening position then this will be deceiving. I hope I can do excellent result. I'm going to try this tomorrow. Can I wait to place my acoustic panel (absorber) before the setup is done, or the acoustic panel must be there before setup ?

After watching loads of videos the only constant method is Distilled water and a soft cloth. No one argues about that.

Wood glue may be a kind of joke, but PVA-based glue works. There had been (or are) commercial products for the purpose, they do not say their products as pva-based though.

Qobuz and spotify pay artists very little , whereas Apple Music pays artists the most.

27:25 Rake angle

All right... After a few days of trails and errors I actually got the center locked in. The sensation of the floating head did happened and it has to do with the right size of the mouth, the vocals. In my case was a matter of moving the left speaker a few inches into the room, horizontally

Very good talk here. The MQA people are total crooks

I was researching products to clean vinyl. I watched videos with Charles Kirmus on his restoration system. After watching this video it was clear to me that he will say anything to sell his product. I went with a vacuum system and I'm happy.

Thank you sir! This is simply the best upgrade to my system. Brought the speakers closer together as you suggested for the slightly warmer sound i wanted and it worked wonderfully. What really did the magic was the rake and toe-in method. The vocals now sing beautifully, and my room is awash in room-filling music. When i close my eyes the speakers melt away. And yes the speaker placement is not perfectly symmetrical.

Rob Watts claims that he is obsessed with getting both the numbers and measurements right. In that case, we should all be asking: What have you been measuring if you claim that we can hear the difference? In other words, you cannot improve upon something unless you can measure it. Even if what he claims (more musicality, depth, timbre, etc.) were true, as an engineer, he must know what contributes to it. Otherwise, he is aiming in the dark every time he designs something new, unless he is deliberately keeping a major secret to himself regarding audio perception that no one has ever decoded thus far, of which I am very skeptical.

YOUR A SHAMAN TO HEAVEN ON EARTH THROUGH SOUND MUSIC STEREOS A NEW LIFE TO LIVE TO KNOW THE TRUTH WHATS REALLY GOING ON TO SUFFER LESS TO HAVE MORE HAPPINESS THANKS FOR YOU THE REAL HONEST TRUTH GOODNESS

Listening toyou islike listenting to jesus it seems too easy too simple almost not possible but it is reality of the right questions right answers the right way its all about listening with your heart to find your answers in life

Great presentation. Very poor audio management on the day.

I’m going to give this a try, but I’m having a really hard time believing in the method with the lack of explanation and attention paid to the starting seating position since it makes such a profound difference in the end result.

You are a true professional. This might be the single greatest music related video I've ever seen in my life. I came here to simply learn what MQA actually does, and instead I witnessed a complete bait presentation to an audience of MQA employees and/or "take-it-to-the-grave-ers" who proceeded to attempt to interrupt you and discredit you at every turn, twisting your words, attacking you, turning it from a presentation into a mass manipulation- MQA is literally like the mafia or something, first they use intimidation tactics to start and by the end are outright lying and beating you down to get you to give up. Fuck these people and I'm so glad that now, in 2023, everyone finally knows across the board what was really going on. This got me gassed up for 40 whole minutes. God bless your soul Chris, I hope this didn't fuck with your head and you moved on, and if you didn't I hope you can now because man this is some sick shit these old fucks are doing to force their lies onto the consumer. It would have gone so much farther and would have gotten so much worse if people like you never spoke up and came to the forefront. CHRIS FOREVER!

44:18 dude that is CRAZY. I just got done moving my speakers trying to find a good spot. One speaker is in a corner and the other speaker is like 8 feet from it’s side wall. Sure enough, the speaker that is in the corner ended up further into the room just like you said.

Like so many of these instructional video, if you cut down the jabber it would limit the time to half.

David Salz, this guy is amazing, and can responce one every question. The master mind

Ive just finished doing this setup and HOLY SH!T! You wasn’t kidding, ive got a crazy holographic soundstage thats huge, it feels like i could reach out and touch things. imaging is so precise and clean, bass is just right. Ive had my speakers set up pretty good over the years but this is worlds away from what im used to, that soundstage just made me laugh out loud with joy. My speakers are different distances from the front wall by roughly 3” with mild toe in at different angles to each other. Thankyou!!

The grill cloth has very little effect upon the sound of the LS3/5A. It can't fix that major flaw - the 200hz to 400hz dip.

At least it plays music! Unlike those audiophile power cords which have zero effect upon the sound.

The LS3/5A does not deserve a cult following. It is an old very flawed design beaten by present day speakers that cost way less!

Tuning a stand to the LS3/5A. LOL!

Line up and get out your credit cards! LOL!

Falcon if you read this fix that 200hz to 400hz dip!

Polycarbonate caps! What a load of cr*p!

Take a close look at that frequency response graph. It shows the broad 200hz to 400hz dip. This is a severe coloration that shouldn't be tolerated in a speaker costing multi-thousands!

A speaker for the gullible who have more money than brains!